First Presbyterian Church Cookstown.
Dr.Rodgers.
Rev.Thomas Rodgers.
Dr.Rodger’s mother
Maghergall Presbyterian
Church
Dr. Rodgers father, also a clergyman , was Minister of Ulsterville Presbyterian Church, in the
early 1900s .During his time there the congregation increased to 700 families.
The initial Rodgers family consisted of two boys and two girls. In 1928, his father was left with
four young children when his first wife died. He remarried in 1929, and in the early 1930s, his
second wife had a child, so Andrew Rodgers arrived in the world.
At the time of his birth, his mother was 45 years old, and not unexpectedly the pregnancy and
birth took a toll on her health, in fact it almost killed her – and so his Aunt Molly was
considerably involved in his earliest years.
Young Andrew was brought up at Maghergall near Lisburn. His father was installed there on
9
th
April, 1929 and remained as Minister for 13 years, making a notable contribution to the life
of the area.
Around this time,at the age of eight, he committed his life to Christ, but confesses that he
failed in his commitment time and again,and still does.
Ballycarrickmaddy P.E.School was responsible for his early education. It appears the
Principal, Mr. McConnell,could wield a cane with considerable authority (as many did in those
days). Dr. Rodgers confided that for comfort he often had an exercise book tucked in the
backside of his trousers!
After leaving Primary School, education continued at Inchmarlo / RBAI during the war years.
These were tough times, food was short and there were many short notice calls to air raid
shelters. In the countryside , the army were billeted in barns and other spare accommodation.
He recalled a memory of a tragic crash landing when a German Heinkel bomber plunged into
a field near by. All of the crew were killed.
In 1943 his father retired from Maghergall (on a salary of £230 pounds per annum) and they
moved to No 1, Windsor Avenue.
Unfortunately in the same year his mother developed breast cancer and needed an operation.
Operations in those days had to be paid for, and the cost of £700 was beyond them. She
prayed that the money would come, and that God would provide. His mother endured a 14
hour operation which lasted from 9.00 AM in the morning until 11 PM at night. In three weeks
over £1340 appeared from everywhere to cover the cost of the operatiod had provided. This
traumatic period taught Andrew three great lessons about life.
The significance of prayer.
The generosity of people.
.. And that cancer can be helped.
His mother, with whom he had a close bond, recovered and lived until 1965, passing away just
before his installation in Dungannon. During her life, the rest of the family had excellent
relationships with his mother, their stepmother.
While a schoolboy at RBAI, during some horseplay near Stranmillis, a friend drenched young
Andrew using a hose. Shortly afterwards he became shivery, subsequently developed
rheumatic fever and ended up in hospital. More than that, he spent almost a year in bed.
Because of this, exams were missed.
Andrew Rodgers studied at Renshaws, and applied to Queens University ,but failed his
matriculation. He then went to Magee College, sat the matriculation exams in June, passed
the first year re-sit in September, and began the General Arts Course which consisted of eight
subjects including mechanics (both written and oral).
He was only six weeks at Magee College when his father died on the 19th October 1949. His
half brother, generously and thoughtfully, told him to go back to Magee College During his
studies, he failed Hebrew and so changed to Greek. He completed his ‘Littlego’ exams, but
failed Mechanics ,which he repeated three weeks later, and he was called at 1.00 to the Desk
for the oral.
He recounted the details vividly-well remembering the girl in front pleading to be allowed
through, and she was, with the remark “I don’t want to see your face again”.
He was next .
“Rodgers, what is that smell. Is it lunch. Will 5/10,7/10,9/10 do”
He lifted his brandy bottle and had a drink.
Professor R.J.Wilson announcing the final exam results said.
‘’Ah, Mr. Rodgers, your Hebrew knowledge is not extensive. I have read your paper three
times and looked in vain for 30 marks to pass you, but then I consulted Almighty God and
decided to give you a 30 WWW (weak, warned, and wobbly)’’.
Hebrew was again the problem!
Dr Rodgers was first called to Ulsterville (where his father had been many years before) as
Assistant to the Rev. R W Gillespie, who was originally from Eglish. He recounted his first
Sunday when his responsibilities were the prayer of intercession and announcing the offering.
He thought he was well prepared, in fact he was so well prepared that the prayer lasted 13
minutes and he probably covered, not just the congregation, but everyone in the country and
indeed the world.
One of his tasks was to visit the Royal Victoria Hospital with Rev. Gillespie.He recalled Billy
who came from Sandy Row and had King William tattooed on his breast. Billy had been in
hospital for some time and wasn’t feeling so good. When Rev. Gillespie asked how he was,
he replied.
‘’Desperate diahorriac.’’
To which Dr.Gillespie replied with a gem of a one-liner.
’’ Your heart’s still in Ulster, but your bowels are in the Free State’’
1957 was an important year. In June, the young minister moved to Clones, and for the first
time, took charge of his own congregation. In October of that year he and Helen (who at that
time trained telephonists) were married. Dr. Rodgers declared that Helen has ever enriched
and supported his ministry since.
Clones High School with its 58 pupils was short of a French teacher and the young clergyman
found himself teaching French (from 9.00 AM to 1.00 PM five days a week). He had no Irish,
so there was no official pay. The governors gave him £3 a week. It was however, fulfilling. A
year later, the French teacher (Miss McClintock) returned. There was still a job, but this time
teaching English and Maths.
Dr.Rodgers recalled receiving his income tax forms (in Irish),which he neglected until he
received one demanding his attention.Finding it fairly incomprehensible to complete, he
instead wrote to the tax office stating his salary as a minister £420 and as a teacher £150, he
added expenses and dependants and asked ‘’What do I owe you?’’. He received a printed
reply,and written at the bottom ‘’Nothing-God help you.’’
Very much an Irish response and not a U.K.one!
While there, for a time he became known as ‘’ The Clones Midwife’’,
A poor family lived in a Gate-lodge belonging to the Bishop of Clogher. Occasionally, they
would go to Monaghan by taxi (there wasn’t much of a bus service) to do some shopping and
sometimes if available he offered the pair a lift.
Anyhow, Tommy the husband (who was just a little slow) asked him if he would take his wife to
hospital. The road was icy, and 3 miles down the road the sounds from the back indicated
that severe contractions had started. The baby arrived a short time later, in the back of the
car, and he was asked if he could cut the cord. The only instrument available was Tommy’s
knife which had a dubious pedigree. The umbilical cord was cut, and the young mother driven
as quickly as possible to hospital.He was later informed by the Sister that the procedure
undertaken in the car was indeed a hazardous one for both baby and child, as there was a
very high risk of infection.
Thus Dr. Rodgers became known as ‘The Clones Midwife’
In 1965, after serving in Monaghan for 71/2 years, a deputation from Dungannon arrived and
inquired if he would apply for the vacancy there.
Five others had applied, and after the usual meetings and preaching of sermons, Andrew
Rodgers was called to 1st Dungannon. Here he succeeded Rev. Dr. Stanley Thompson who
had been the incumbent in Dungannon for between 49 and 50 years. Dr. Thompson, a
bachelor, was an excellent speaker and Dr. Rodgers recalled one of his Dungannon
predecessor’s remarks.
“Whenever I thought about getting married, I just took two Cullens Powders, and lay down
until the notion left me”
He also remembered that interestingly, and deliberately, Rev. Dr. Thompson’s headstone is
between graves 49 and 50 in Coolhill Cemetery-reflecting the number of years he had been in
Dungannon. The deceased Rev. Dr. Thompson was a great friend of Miss Leith, Headmistress
of Dungannon High School for Girls at that time. Both were sticklers for good English. On his
gravestone, part of the inscription says. “ Friend of the church, the town and it’s people’’. Dr.
Rodgers chuckled that he might well have turned in his grave, because of the grammatical
error on his Headstone.
He reflected that when he arrived in Dungannon, Dr. Jim Kincade was Principal of RSD, and a
member of the congregation. Jim Kincade was a particularly gifted speaker (as I remember
myself- his Prize Distribution speeches were always notable). Dr. Rodgers described, how,
rather in awe of Dr. Kincade, he attempted to match his oratory in the pulpit, but soon realized
that it really wasn't working. From then he made the decision that he was much better just
being himself.
In his early days at Scotch Street, youth activities within the church were very limited, but the
seventies, eighties and nineties witnessed a dramatic change. At their peak, 150 teenagers
attended the Youth Club, 120 came to Christian Endeavour on a Saturday night, and 150
enjoyed the Teens Coffee Bar .From those gatherings many met and married their life partner
,and many also found Christ.
When he retired, the Congregation had 650 families
While in Dungannon in 1993,and during the troubles, Dr. Rodgers was elected Moderator of
the General Assembly (no easy job during those traumatic times). He confessed that at the
time he had no desire or want for the position. During his year of office he travelled 47,000
miles in Ireland, 7500 in Africa and a large number in England. He remembers vividly the
trauma and sadness of the Shankill Road bombing. That particular day he spent five
continuous hours from 6.00 PM to 11.00 PM talking either to the bereaved or the media. Many
of his visits during this time were to Presbyterian farming communities along the border and
he was very aware of the huge tension and danger experienced by many border families.
At this time, he gained a respectful insight into the workings of Church Outreach and the
excellent work that was carried out with the old, prisoners and mission, both at home and
overseas.
Altogether 32 years were spent as a Presbyterian Minister in Dungannon. While there, he
saw the worst of the troubles. His congregation often bore anguish and grief in those dark
years and the Church itself had windows smashed almost 30 times.He served on the
Governing Boards of almost every school in the district ,some of them for nearly 30 years.
Despite the mayhem, Helen and he saw their family grow up, largely complete their education,
and fly the nest.
Dr. and Mrs Helen Rodgers accept gifts on their retirement from Joshua Buchanan (Senior
Elders),Margaret Forbes(rep.Congregation) and Rosemary McKeown (rep. P.W.A.)
Retirement in 1996 did not last long. Dr. Isaac Thompson invited him to be Pastoral Assistant
at First Cookstown and in his own words.
‘’I have found this to be a delight from beginning to end’’.
As many may know, Dr. Rodgers has his stories, and this one he told me as we talked.
During a visit to a once well known and popular local resident, and after giving a comforting
reading and prayer, he was asked to come a bit closer and the patient, who appeared to be
half asleep, whispered.
‘’Mr. Thompson, that was a lovely reading and prayer. That fellow Rodgers, comes sometimes
too. He reads and prays as well, but he doesn’t hold a candle to you’’.
Dr. Rodgers concluded by thanking God for the warm hearted and kindly congregation in First
Cookstown and intimated how fulfilling the last 15 years had been for him.
He finished with the following quotation.
od asks not for success, but faithfulness,
Not for great skill, but that we do his will.
Live so as to be missed,
Live with eternities values in view.
With his father, aged
3 or 4
A schoolboy at RBAI...
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Clones Presbyterian Church
Ulsterville Presbyterian
Church.
... and fairly recently
Dr.Rodgers-Moderator
1993-94
Dr.& Mrs. Rodgers cut
their retirement cake.
Mr.John Eddie presents Dr.Rodgers
with a retirement gift.